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Re: Car Shopping

New postby Jeff » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:33 pm

Interesting Buick, but it says "concept" on it.
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Re: Car Shopping

New postby Bud » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:24 pm

A new Grand Sport, eh? It sounds like a cool car, but old-school Grand Sport fans are gonna' be dissapointed with a 2.0 liter turbo. However, that might put it on my list. My guess is we'll see a repeat of the GTO repeat. GM never learns.
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Re: Car Shopping

New postby Curt » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:26 am

The pictures are of the concept car, but they have since officially announce the car.

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Re: Car Shopping

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Re: Car Shopping

New postby Bud » Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:16 pm


Dude. That' car is in my top 3.
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Re: Car Shopping

New postby Jeff » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:20 am

I know performance is your main concern, but what about styling
and interior?

Since the last time I partcipated in a car chase was several years
ago and performance is something you brag about to friends, what
do your top three say about you?

Perception is social reality.

The 'vette says either, mid life crisis or serious car junky and
you wardrobe answers that question quick enough.

But, now you're looking at a 4 door saloon statement. Anything short
of a DB9 says middle class. So, what are you looking to say with this car?
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Re: Car Shopping

New postby Bud » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:47 pm

Trollin', trollin', trollin', keep those doggies rollin'... :lol:

Jeff wrote:I know performance is your main concern, but what about styling and interior?

You've not been paying attention, have you. I've veto'd several of Curt's suggestions because I'm sick of cheap compat-car interiors. The next car I buy will have a nice leather iterior (which is one of the reasons I've said I like the VW CC). Also, much of the discussion has been centered around, this or that is a "nice looking car". I'm not shopping for a sports car. I have one already. I'm shopping for a nice sedan. So, yes, performance is important, but so are styling and interior and mileage and (most importantly) RELIABILITY.

Jeff wrote: what do your top three say about you?

Perception is social reality.

Since you're trolling, I'll give you the answer you're looking for.

WHO GIVES A CRAP what anybody else's perceptions are. I only care what my perception is. I bought the Subaru because I thought it was the closest to an AWD rally beast that I could affort. I was a Subaru guy, but I bought a Corvette because I wanted more luxury and as much performance as I could get. Corvette was the best for the money (go read my shopping thread from 5 years ago, it's still on the board). I basically got laughed out of the Subaru clubs because I was slower in the Corvette than I was in the Subaru. I don't realy care. I enjoy the leather seats and the throttle pedal. I'll buy a Hyundai next if it fits my requirements. I don't much care what "statement" it makes.

Jeff wrote: But, now you're looking at a 4 door saloon statement. Anything short of a DB9 says middle class. So, what are you looking to say with this car?

A DB9 is a coupe. If I could afford one, I'd trade the 'Vette for it. I'm looking for a nice sporty, luxury, reliable sedan at a good price. I don't give a crap what "statement" it makes. I care what I thing about it and what Jerri thinks about it.

Right now, after the rain we've had the last few days, Jerri's thinking reliable AWD is a big bonus. How'd that "Fit" do?

BTW: The Honda Fit is rated very well by Consumer Reports for reliability and mileage. It's really quite a good car.
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Re: Car Shopping

New postby Jeff » Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:40 pm

One.
Two.
Three.

BTW, you are right about the DB9 being a coupe, I was thinking of
the 4 door Rapide and listening to Top Gear in the background.

Back to counting.
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Re: Car Shopping

New postby Jeff » Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:08 pm

Done counting.

The Fit works great in the rain and suffered no damage from
the hail storm, wish I didn't have to replace a window in the
master bedroom broken by the hail though.

Hope your house didn't suffer any damage.
Checked on Bill; he, his family and his house are fine.

Back to topic, since you mentioned that you only care about
your and Jerri's opinion, I will stop "trollin" for clarification.

I truly hope you enjoy your next automotive purchase for
years of trouble free comfort.
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Re: Car Shopping

New postby Bud » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:21 pm

Jeff wrote:Done counting.

How high did you get? :devil:

Jeff wrote:The Fit works great in the rain and suffered no damage from
the hail storm, wish I didn't have to replace a window in the
master bedroom broken by the hail though.

I'm glad to hear that the car is doing well. Sorry to hear about the window. That sucks.

Jeff wrote:Back to topic, since you mentioned that you only care about
your and Jerri's opinion, I will stop "trollin" for clarification.

...so sensitive. :P

I had made the point several times that I was sick of cheap economy car interiors, Curt and I had been talking mostly about styling, and I believe I'd made a point of reliability more than once. So when you said, "I know performance is your top priority, but what do you think about interiors and styling" I figured you were either trolling just to get my goat or you were really not reading what we'd been posting.

Jeff wrote:I truly hope you enjoy your next automotive purchase for
years of trouble free comfort.

Me too, thanks! :mrgreen:
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Re: Car Shopping

New postby Bud » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:48 pm

OK Jeff, I guess I owe you a apology. Jerri, who almost never visits my board, but is actually moderating another board, has pointed out that I'm an asshole. No, that I'm being an asshole. Well, maybe both. :lol:

Looking back, I guess I didn't clearly state that I was sick of cheap economy car interriors (although I did talk about styling, interior, and mileage of the CC in my first post). So, maybe it was clear in my head that I was more concerned with those things than performance, but I didn't state it clearly.

My bad, sorry for accusing you of clueless trolling.

So, let me think about my priorities for my next car purchase:

1. Reliability (I'm damn sick of inexcusable problems like the 'Vette has had)
2. Interior styling & comfort (I really want a car with a nice leather interior, I'm tired of cheap plastic)
3. Exterior styling (I want something that I like to look at)
4. Mileage (I'd like to get over 20 MPG in town and over 30 MPG on the freeway, I can already get those numbers in the 'Vette)
5. Performance (I want something that can get out of its own way and that handles like a car, not a boat)

I'd say 2 and 3 are really close, possibly inverted and just because I rate mileage higher than performance doesn't mean I'm willing to sacrifice performance for mileage (but I'm not looking for another performance car).

Does that clarify what I'm thinking?
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Re: Car Shopping

New postby Curt » Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:31 am

Bud wrote:OK Jeff, I guess I owe you a apology. Jerri, who almost never visits my board, but is actually moderating another board, has pointed out that I'm an asshole. No, that I'm being an asshole. Well, maybe both. :lol:

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! I laughed so hard it hurt.

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Re: Car Shopping

New postby Bud » Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:12 am

Curt wrote:
Bud wrote:OK Jeff, I guess I owe you a apology. Jerri, who almost never visits my board, but is actually moderating another board, has pointed out that I'm an asshole. No, that I'm being an asshole. Well, maybe both. :lol:

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! I laughed so hard it hurt.

See Jeff, Curt shares your pain.
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Re: Car Shopping

New postby Jeff » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:44 am

Bud,
Thank you for the apology.

RE: Counting.
I was counting which topics you covered.

Going to your clarified list:

Reliability.
I feel your pain there.
All the reports we read, all the reviews, all the opinions we get, help.
And, with a little bit of luck thrown in ( and keeping oneself from
running into trees ) we should be relatively sure (see tree comment again)
that we can keep a car for many years.

Interior styling and confort.
This area is completely beyond me.
I look for vehicle's that fit Great Danes, are easy to clean drool off of,
hopefully won't show too much dog hair and might survive a tree committing
suicide by jumping in front of it.

That being said, this area intrigues me.
What types, colors and textures of leather are available?
Climate control? (Heated seats in the Forester were the height of luxery for
me. When Bill's Lexus was equiped with vents blowing up your butt, I thought
of the decadance of sodam and gemora finally being surpassed, which was
alright by me.)
Sound quality at highway speeds balanced against one's ability to sample
the surrounding enviroment for safety sake.
The belt line? (Something I was aware of and bothered by but had no term for
until recently being educated by the "CAR TALK" guys)

Have to head off to Ikea with Audrey.
Will come back tonight.
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Re: Car Shopping

New postby Curt » Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:32 am

Have you considered the A3 Bud? Downside is that it is wagon only, but you can get in TDI if you don't mind FWD only.

I know it isn't up your alley, but they just announced a power upgrade for the SRT8 Challenger. They are putting the 392 in it with 480ish Hp. Will actually have to give it a good look when I get back since it actually has a usable back seat.

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